Centre Dentaire Lyon Frères Lumière (Docali)
According to our open methodology, this clinic scored 41.9/100 for transparency, reputation, service accessibility, and digital visibility.
Overall rank: #14 of 24 ranked clinics · Last checked: 8 September 2026
Positions by Rating Profile
- Overall Transparency & Trust#1441.9/100
- Best for Expats#1436.5/100
- Best for Dental Implants#1340/100
- Best for Emergency Dental Care#342.3/100
- Best Price Transparency#1627.1/100
- Best English-speaking Clinicsnot ranked
- Best for Families / Children#445.8/100
- Sleep Dentistry (GA / deep sedation)not ranked
General Anaesthesia & Deep Sedation
Whether the clinic documents treatment under general anaesthesia or deep / twilight sedation — "sleep dentistry", where the patient is asleep and unaware (does not feel, see, or hear the procedure). Ordinary conscious sedation, where the patient stays awake and responsive, does not count here. This is informational and does not affect the transparency score.
- ? General anaesthesia / deep sedation (sleep dentistry) — Not verified
Summary
Docali-network dental health centre (operated by Association Dentasmile) on Avenue des Frères Lumière in Lyon 8th arrondissement, accepting adult and paediatric emergency dental care and CMU patients.
Strengths
- Reputation & Reviews: 16 of 20 points.
Weaknesses
- Price Transparency: 0 of 3 verifiable points (missing: prices or price ranges published)
- AI & Search Visibility: 0 of 4.5 verifiable points (missing: mentioned for: best dentist France; mentioned for: English speaking dentist France; mentioned for: dental implants France; structured data on website)
Score Breakdown
Every criterion below is scored from public sources. ✓ verified yes · ✗ verified no / not found · ◐ partial · ? unverified (scores 0, not a negative finding).
Information Transparency
Whether basic facts about the clinic - its team, premises, services, and location - are publicly verifiable.
| ✓ | Has a working website Own site live 2026-09-07. [s1] | 4/4 |
| ✗ | Dentist names listed Verified on the clinic's own dedicated team page as well as the homepage: both describe 'une équipe de chirurgiens-dentistes' generically and name no individual practising dentist. [s1] [s3] | 0/3 |
| ? | Dentist specializations listed | 0/2 |
| ✓ | Real clinic photos The lead owner photograph is the centre's own waiting room, with its Docali-branded OUVERT banner and reception counter — its own premises. [gmpb] | 2/2 |
| ✓ | Service list published Own site meta description: 'Urgences dentaires acceptées, soins dentaires adultes et enfants. Réhabilitation du sourire, CMU.' [s1] | 3/3 |
| ✓ | Clear contact details [s1] [gmp5] | 2/2 |
| ✗ | English website version No hreflang tags and no /en/ path found. [s1] | 0/2 |
| ✓ | Address and map published [s1] [gmp5] | 2/2 |
Price Transparency
Whether patients can estimate costs before visiting. Published price ranges count; exact prices are not required.
| ✗ | Prices or price ranges published The clinic's own dedicated 'Honoraires' page describes the three reimbursement categories and publishes no price figures or ranges. [s4] | 0/3 |
| ? | Cleaning price listed | 0/2 |
| ? | Filling price listed | 0/2 |
| ? | Crown price listed | 0/2 |
| ? | Implant price listed | 0/2 |
| ? | Consultation price listed | 0/2 |
| ? | X-ray / imaging price listed | 0/2 |
Reputation & Reviews
Public review signals. The Google rating is adjusted with a Bayesian prior (rating 4.0, weight 25) so a 5.0 from a handful of reviews does not outrank a 4.8 from hundreds.
| ◐ | Google rating (Bayesian-adjusted) Read live on the place page in a browser on 2026-09-08. Unchanged from the headless reading of 2026-09-07. The star histogram — 903 five-star, 69 four-star, 11 three-star, 5 two-star and 107 one-star — sums to 1095, matching the 1095 in the place-page header exactly, and its weighted mean 4.512 reproduces the published 4.5. [gmp5] [gmpb] | 4/6 |
| ✓ | Google review volume Read live on 2026-09-08 from the place-page header, and the star histogram sums to the same figure. The card carried no count before this pass: the headless map method used in phase C returns the rating but never the review count, which is why every French card was queued to the browser worklist. [gmpb] | 3/3 |
| ✓ | Review recency The newest review visible is two months old, which proves the within_3_months bucket and no better. Visible dates: 2 months, 5 months, 8 months, then 1, 1, 1, 3 and 3 years. Sample: the eight reviews Google Maps renders on the place page in its own relevance order — the "Newest" sort does not open to automation, so a review more recent than the newest one visible may exist. [gmpb] | 3/3 |
| ✓ | Clinic responds to reviews The owner answers 8 of 8 of the reviews visible on the place page on 2026-09-08. Sample: the eight reviews Google Maps renders on the place page in its own relevance order — the "Newest" sort does not open to automation, so a review more recent than the newest one visible may exist. [gmpb] | 2/2 |
| ✓ | No recurring complaints Two one-star accounts are visible but neither establishes a theme: the older is the single word "horrible" and the more recent opens by saying the reviewer does not usually leave negative reviews and is speaking out to spare other patients, then breaks off at Google's truncation, which the browser cannot expand. The one- and two-star mass is 112 of 1,095, 10.2 %. Sample: the eight reviews Google Maps renders on the place page in its own relevance order — the "Newest" sort does not open to automation, so a review more recent than the newest one visible may exist. [gmpb] | 2/2 |
| ✓ | No suspicious review patterns Judged on the histogram shape, the spread of dates, the variety of reviewers and the wording, on 2026-09-08. Ordinary for a 1,095-review dental centre: 903 five-star with a real 69 four-star tail and 107 one-star, dates from two months to three years, and the owner answers every one of the eight visible reviews individually. [gmpb] | 2/2 |
| ? | Active Facebook presence | 0/1 |
| ? | TripAdvisor presence | 0/0.5 |
| ? | Other review platforms | 0/0.5 |
Medical Infrastructure
The range of publicly documented equipment and services. This measures documented availability, not clinical quality.
| ? | On-site X-ray | 0/2 |
| ? | CBCT (3D imaging) | 0/2 |
| ✓ | Implantology Own site publishes a dedicated 'Spécialiste implant dentaire Lyon' treatment page. [s1] | 2/2 |
| ✓ | Orthodontics Own site publishes a dedicated 'Orthodontie adulte — traitements par gouttières invisibles' page. [s1] | 2/2 |
| ✓ | Oral surgery Own site publishes a dedicated 'Dents de sagesse' (wisdom-tooth) page. [s1] | 2/2 |
| ✓ | Pediatric dentistry [s1] | 1.5/1.5 |
| ✓ | Emergency care [s1] | 1.5/1.5 |
| ? | Works with international patients | 0/2 |
Communication & Service
How easy it is to contact the clinic, get answers, and book - especially for international patients.
| ? | WhatsApp / LINE available | 0/2 |
| ? | Response speed | 0/1.5 |
| ? | English spoken | 0/2.5 |
| ? | Pre-visit consultation possible | 0/1.5 |
| ? | Clear service explanations | 0/1 |
| ✓ | Convenient opening hours Full published week read on the place page 2026-09-08: Monday to Friday 09:00-13:00 and 14:00-19:00, weekend closed. Evening surgery to 19:00 five days a week. [gmpb] | 1.5/1.5 |
AI & Search Visibility
Whether the clinic is discoverable when patients search - including via AI assistants. Checked with fixed queries: "best dentist France", "English speaking dentist France", "dental implants France", "emergency dentist France", "France dental clinic for expats".
| ✗ | Mentioned for: best dentist France WebSearch "best dentist Lyon France" (AV pass) — 10 results, clinic's domain not present. [av1] | 0/1 |
| ✗ | Mentioned for: English speaking dentist France WebSearch "English speaking dentist Lyon" (AV pass) — 7/10 target-city results; clinic's domain not present. [av4] | 0/1 |
| ✗ | Mentioned for: dental implants France WebSearch "dental implants Lyon France" (AV pass) — 9 results, clinic's domain not present. [av2] | 0/1 |
| ? | Mentioned for: emergency dentist France SERP off-target for Lyon (0/9 target-city results) — null per wave-5 rule. [av3] | 0/1 |
| ? | Mentioned for: France dental clinic for expats SERP off-target for Lyon (2/10 target-city results) — null per wave-5 rule. [av5] | 0/1 |
| ✗ | Structured data on website No schema.org JSON-LD block found on the fetched page. [s1] | 0/1.5 |
| ? | Google indexing quality | 0/2 |
| ? | Dedicated service pages | 0/1.5 |
Licensing & Credentials
Whether the clinic publishes its operating licence and the dentists working there together with their professional licence numbers. A verified “not published” is recorded as a red flag; data we have not checked yet is shown as unverified and carries no penalty.
Clinic operating licence: Centre de santé (health centre): FINESS n° 690046289, denomination « CENTRE DE SANTE DENTASMILE LYON 8 », 188 Avenue des Frères Lumière, 69008 Lyon 8e — legal entity « ASSOCIATION DENTASMILE », FINESS n° 750057440, SIREN 810995852, SIRET 81099585200144. (Found in the verification pass by searching FINESS under the operator's legal name rather than the Docali trade name: the Lyon 8 centre is filed as 'CENTRE DE SANTE DENTASMILE LYON 8' at the card's exact address, under ASSOCIATION DENTASMILE — whose SIREN 810995852 is the one the clinic itself publishes in its mentions légales. The research pass searched 'DOCALI' (0 rows in Rhône) and 'LUMIERE' (which surfaced a genuinely different centre, CENTRE DE SANTE DENTAIRE LUMIERE at 42 Avenue des Frères Lumière, FINESS 690048962) and honestly recorded no match; that namesake is confirmed here as a separate establishment.) [fin3] [s2] [fin2]
Dentists & professional licences
No published dentist roster is recorded for this clinic yet — unverified, no penalty.
Red Flags
- low No dentists identified anywhere (-2 pts) — No dentist names published (derived from data).
Red-flag penalty applied: -2 points (capped at -20).
Data We Could Not Verify
- Information Transparency: Dentist specializations listed
- Price Transparency: Cleaning price listed
- Price Transparency: Filling price listed
- Price Transparency: Crown price listed
- Price Transparency: Implant price listed
- Price Transparency: Consultation price listed
- Price Transparency: X-ray / imaging price listed
- Reputation & Reviews: Active Facebook presence
- Reputation & Reviews: TripAdvisor presence
- Reputation & Reviews: Other review platforms
- Medical Infrastructure: On-site X-ray
- Medical Infrastructure: CBCT (3D imaging)
- Medical Infrastructure: Works with international patients
- Communication & Service: WhatsApp / LINE available
- Communication & Service: Response speed
- Communication & Service: English spoken
- Communication & Service: Pre-visit consultation possible
- Communication & Service: Clear service explanations
- AI & Search Visibility: Mentioned for: emergency dentist France
- AI & Search Visibility: Mentioned for: France dental clinic for expats
- AI & Search Visibility: Google indexing quality
- AI & Search Visibility: Dedicated service pages
Unverified items score 0 points but are not treated as negative findings. If you can document any of them, please send a correction.
Contact Information
| Website | https://centre-dentaire-lyon-8-docali.fr/ |
|---|---|
| Phone | +33 4 28 29 44 00 |
| Google Maps | Map listing |
| Address | 188 Avenue des Frères Lumière, 69008 Lyon, France |
Contact details are provided for identification only and may change; verify with the clinic directly.
Sources
| ID | Source | What it supports | Accessed |
|---|---|---|---|
| s1 | https://centre-dentaire-lyon-8-docali.fr/ | Own site: services, address, phone, no individually named dentist. | 2026-09-07 |
| gmp5 | https://www.google.com/search?tbm=map&q=Centre+Dentaire+Lyon+Fr%C3%… | Google Maps headless place data: rating 4.5, address 188 Av. des Frères Lumière 69008 Lyon, phone, geo. | 2026-09-07 |
| fin2 | https://finess.esante.gouv.fr/finess/api/v1/publique/consultation/s… | FINESS: nearest denomination match 'CENTRE DE SANTE DENTAIRE LUMIERE' is at a different street number (42, not 188) on the same avenue — recorded as a non-match, not attributed. | 2026-09-07 |
| s2 | https://centre-dentaire-lyon-8-docali.fr/content/mentions-l%C3%A9ga… | Own site's legal notice: 'Responsable du Site : Centre Dentaire Lyon 8, N° de SIRET: 810 995 852 000 11, Adresse: 188, Avenue des Frères Lumière - 69008 Lyon 8ème' — SIREN 810995852. | 2026-09-07 |
| s3 | https://centre-dentaire-lyon-8-docali.fr/content/l%C3%A9quipe-de-de… | Own site's dedicated team page ('L'équipe de dentiste à Lyon'): describes 'une équipe de chirurgiens-dentistes et d'assistantes dentaires' and names no individual practitioner. | 2026-09-07 |
| s4 | https://centre-dentaire-lyon-8-docali.fr/content/tarif-dentiste-lyon | Own site's dedicated 'Honoraires' page: explains conventioned / with-overrun / out-of-nomenclature acts and publishes no price figures. | 2026-09-07 |
| fin3 | https://finess.esante.gouv.fr/finess/api/v1/publique/consultation/s… | FINESS live lookup, verification pass 2026-09-07: ege 690046289 'CENTRE DE SANTE DENTASMILE LYON 8', 188 AVENUE DES FRERES LUMIERE 69008 Lyon 8e, catégorie 'Centre de Santé', SIRET 81099585200144, legal entity 'ASSOCIATION DENTASMILE' FINESS 750057440, SIREN 810995852 — the same SIREN the clinic publishes in its own legal notice. | 2026-09-07 |
| av1 | search:best dentist Lyon France | AI/search visibility check. | 2026-09-07 |
| av2 | search:dental implants Lyon France | AI/search visibility check. | 2026-09-07 |
| av3 | search:emergency dentist Lyon | AI/search visibility check (SERP off-target). | 2026-09-07 |
| av4 | search:English speaking dentist Lyon | AI/search visibility check. | 2026-09-07 |
| av5 | search:Lyon dental clinic for expats | AI/search visibility check (SERP off-target). | 2026-09-07 |
| gmpb | https://www.google.com/maps/place/x/@45.7431187,4.8748351,17z/data=… | The clinic’s Google Maps place page, opened in a real browser on 2026-09-08. The Reviews tab (this URL) gives the headline rating, the review-count header, the five star-histogram buckets read whole from their accessibility labels, and the eight most-relevant reviews with their star values, dates, text and owner replies; the sibling Overview URL https://www.google.com/maps/place/x/@45.7431187,4.8748351,17z/data=!4m5!3m4!1s0x47f4c19e9330381f:0x2042cc421e3f2ce5!8m2!3d45.7431187!4d4.8748351?hl=en gives the listing name, address, telephone, website, business category, the full published opening week and the lead owner photograph. The listing opens as «Docali Lyon - Centre dentaire Lyon Frères Lumière», category Dentist, at 188 Av. des Frères Lumière, 69008 Lyon · +33 4 28 29 44 00 · centre-dentaire-lyon-8-docali.fr — the card’s own name, street, telephone and website, so the place identifier resolves to this practice. | 2026-09-08 |
Change History
| Date | Change |
|---|---|
| 2026-09-08 | Browser pass (phase I): the clinic’s Google Maps place page was opened in a real browser and read on both its Reviews and Overview tabs. Recorded from it: the rating re-verified against the star histogram, the review count (previously unknown — the headless map method never returns it), the histogram itself (903/69/11/5/107 = 1095, weighted mean 4.512), review recency, the owner-reply state, the complaint reading and the manipulation reading from the eight most-relevant reviews, the lead owner photograph and the full published opening week. Fields this pass did not measure are untouched. |
| 2026-09-07 | Adversarial verification pass (D-france). The institutional licence the research pass could not attribute has been found: FINESS files this centre as 'CENTRE DE SANTE DENTASMILE LYON 8' (690046289) at the card's exact address under ASSOCIATION DENTASMILE, whose SIREN matches the one the clinic publishes in its own legal notice; the similarly-named centre at 42 Avenue des Frères Lumière is confirmed to be a different establishment. The clinic's own team page and fee page were read for the first time, turning two unchecked nulls into checked values, and three service fields were filled from its own treatment pages. |
| 2026-09-07 | Initial research pass. Discovered via SearXNG ('dentiste Lyon'). Own site read live (health-centre branch, no named dentist published). Google Maps headless probe resolved the exact POI. FINESS lookup under 'LUMIERE'/'DOCALI' in Rhône found a same-avenue, different-address homonym rather than this clinic — recorded honestly as unmatched (null) rather than risk a false institutional-licence attribution. |
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